9.How
did you join the Junyi team? How did you meet Chairman Fang
who let you take over Junyi Academy?
I think Chairman Fang is a wise and visionary person. He
managed
the platform’s software which is his specialization. I manage
the
content. Together we can create extra value. That’s
why I
joined the Junyi team.
Chairman Fang was satisfied with my on-line videos and reached out to
me. We worked together on some items. He endorsed
my
ability and attitude and subsequently let me take over the team.
10.Team
members of Junyi are all youngbloods at their 20s or 30s.
Part of
them have education background. How did you pull them
together? How did you inspire them to devote time and energy
to
education?
Firstly, I have to do my own part of the job well. Make it a
standing model and shed light on it. Let others see the
concrete
stuff so that they can be part of it. Secondly, we must get
out
in front. Make sure it is visible to other people.
I started to narrow down those capable persons who have a sense of
calling from a list of my acquaintances. During that time, we
were not well-aware by the public and we have to actively invite people
to join up. If their response is negative, I would ask them
for
two recommendations. Our target candidates generally know
people
with similar capabilities and vision. Such recommendation
would
help us in reaching out to the right team member.
11.Junyi
Academy is a charitable organization. How does it obtain
funding? Is the funding sizable enough?
Junyi Academy spends about TWD 30 million every year. How is
it
funded? Junyi runs on donations. Junyi wants to
adopt a
pure charity based approach and to avoid commercialization.
That
way, we can think straight without having second thought.
Once
Junyi wants to generate profit, the target audiences would be skewed
away from the rural population and underprivileged. There are
3
groups of targets for fund-raising. The first group includes
the
directors of the foundation. They make top-level decisions
for
the foundation. Secondly, enterprises. They make
donation
to charitable organization every year and obtain tax cut from the
government. As long as we are more effective in utilizing the
money than the government, enterprises will provide us with
funding. The final group is the general public.
There are
of course other organizations that absorb public donations including
Taiwan fund for Children and Families, Eden Social Welfare
Foundation. Junyi receives some donation from a different
part of
the general public including lawyers, doctors, engineers, teachers,
accountants etc. who may consider education exceptionally
important. Our funds come from donation completely.
It is difficult for non-profit organization to maintain ample amount of
funds. In case one such organization keeps a bigger wallet
than
its objectives, it would means the organization is on a downhill path.
If we do not have a need for larger amount money, we would not have
asked the society or enterprises for support. That is why we
constantly in a barely just-made position as far as money is
concerned. In other words, it is very likely that our team
members would get larger pay cheques once they seek other opportunities
elsewhere. In this perspective, one can say that Junyi is
never
going to have enough money.
12.There
are currently 1.3 million pupils, 50 thousand teachers and three
thousand parents registered on the platform, but the number of online
account are far below those numbers. Does this gap indicate
that
there is much room for improvement?
That is actually a common scenario. Take a learning platform
in
mainland china as an example. There are 300 million
registrations
whereas the number of active accounts is about 20 million only, i.e.
less than 10%. In Junyi’s case, there are about 200 thousand
active accounts every month. The active account percentage is
over 10% which means we are not doing bad. Junyi definitely
has
the potential to attain better metrics. On the other side of
the
coin, Junyi’s numbers are pretty normal.
13.On-line
education is supposed to be pupil centered. Study as much as
one
wants at his tempo when he likes. However, we tend to be a
bit
slack without supervision. Have you come across similar
question?
That is normal. Only a few percent of human are very strong
self-starters. I am not saying that human cannot be
self-starter. Self-learning requires fostering.
That is why
we have conventional education. We cannot totally rely on
machine
to foster learning, we need human guidance too. Teachers are
there to foster learning. A good on-line platform alone does
not
suffice. That is why Junyi has a marketing team which is set
to
communicate with teachers about how the two work together to guide
children. In the future, interaction may be primarily between
human and AI machines, but human cannot be replaced. Junyi
has
never planned to solve all the problems in education on its own.
14.Junyi
targets the privileged, gifted and regular. Why? Is
it
correct to say that Junyi is in the stage of targeting the
underprivileged?
It doesn’t matter whether they are Bunun children in Taitung county,
children in the military dependents’ villages in Yunlin, or children
raised by grandparents in the villages in previous Tainan county, they
are very similar to you in terms of natural endowments and
capabilities. The major difference is that they may not have
stable families and stable teachers in schools. They may have
6
teachers from Grade 1 to 6. You probably do not have the same
first-hand experience.
What we put “weakness” is actually weakness in learning. The
children in rural areas are not necessarily weak. I’ve met
some
children who live in rural areas who read junior high school materials
when they were at Grade 5. They chose to learn by
themselves. In those areas where education resources are
limited,
helping the weak ones are top of the list. However, we cannot
rely only on the platform. We have to align with teachers and
supplementary class and even other units. We have to align as
many grownups who are there to support the children as possible.
The methods for the underprivileged, gifted and regular seem different,
but we put it as the same one in Junyi namely, “aptitude oriented
teaching”. When I meet with a pupil, I would use a style that
fits with him or her in the interaction. I called that
personalized learning.
Where is the best location for applying this? It would be
those
areas where resources are limited because the people would love to see
new methods. In my opinion, it is just about identifying and
applying the best mean for interacting with each individual no matter
he or she is an underprivileged, gifted or regular. Junyi
wants
to work with teachers to personalize learning for each child regardless
of his or her position on the spectrum.
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15.What
is your view on the current education environment?
Examination
follows by examination, one after the other. My parents told
me
that they had similar studenthood which is why we are to go through
similar “ordeal”.
I believe there is quality education in Taiwan, but we need something
even better. There is an examination called PISA where
teenagers
around 15-year old from 70 to 80 countries sit for. Taiwan
children have been getting very good results all these years. At least
the top 5. This shows that the quality of education in Taiwan
is
pretty good. We need you agile not just your good
grades.
Examination is just part of learning but not all of it. When
we
manage to stuff a lot of knowledge in the brain, we also have to leave
space for doing something creative? How do we do
it?
Think! That is where education in Taiwan is steering to.
16.The
Junyi platform evolves from Khan Academy. How did you convert
it
into an education platform that fits with us. What are the
difference in focused subjects between Taiwan and foreign countries?
In simple terms, there are 3 parts in the conversion. The
first
one is to create a platform that allows video uploading. It
was
on our platform instead of Khan Academy’s platform. Secondly,
chinese language support. The third part is localization
which is
different from chinese language support. The latter is
translation of the content. Localization is different, e.g.
the
syllabus for mathematic in Taiwan and US are different. We
have
to work with partners in Taiwan who provide us with local videos.
Singapore is an elite nation. Their school syllabus for
science
and mathematics are ahead of ours by two years which means their Grade
4 pupils learn those things our children do in Grade 6. And then we
have the 108 syllabus. Our junior high school students have
to be
able to write programs instead of just using programs. Pupils in
Singapore start learning Python in primary school years. In
simple terms, education in Singapore is very elite-oriented.
If
one doesn’t stay on the mainstream, he would be filtered and put on the
route to vocational training. That is the system in
Singapore.
There used to be a similar education system in Taiwan.
Finland has a multivalue education system. Multivalue denotes
the
belief that the future world is not linear but in mesh
structure.
One has to see things in multiple angles. The Finnish people
believe that the future needs theme and phenomenon. A student
has
to be able to start a thought train from a theme or a
phenomenon.
Their syllabus is twin-axial. They have problem based enquiry
learning and project-based learning instead of lecture based
classes. In US, they think staying healthy is good for
discovering one’s interests. There are a lot of AP classes.
If
you are good, you can study college materials in high school.
That way, you get to exempt a lot of modules and do a double major or
even a triple major and graduate early. I was told that a lot
of
good software engineers hold double major degrees or triple major
degrees. You can find a good dancer who is a software
engineer. A person with a strong sense of aesthetics is
possibly
a mathematician. That is a common scenario in US.
Among the
nations that I’ve mentioned, Singapore is very strongly
examination-oriented. Finland embraces multivalue.
In US,
once teenager manages to identify his knowledge path, he gets on a
highway to college and further study.
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