¡i Interviewing Huang Chun-Ming¡j |
1.When did you
have first contact with Kid¡¦s Drama¡H Why you want to form the
kid¡¦s troupe¡H
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Master
Huang Chun-Ming replied¡G
I liked to watch theatrical play since I was a kid. At that
time, there is nothing of kid¡¦s drama. In the time of poverty,
we watched whatever grandma watched, and I watched almost every
play and it brought up my interest in drama. I liked to listen
to tale telling, so I went along with grownups to watch theatrical
play. They are noisy and funny. I did not have understanding
of the contents of the plays I watched, or what meaning they
were conveying.
Like most of the children watching drama at that period of time,
as long as the play sounds good, looks good, funny and playful,
we would like it. In this way, we liked it, formed a habit and
were kind of addicted to it. Later, when we grew up gradually,
we have the chance. I was a teacher and I was graduated from
Pintung Normal School. In its 10 anniversary, we had the chance.
I wrote a script of ¡§The Red Shoes¡¨, originated from Anderson
and I directed the play. This is a rather specific commence
of my interests in kid¡¦s drama.
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2.Have
you encountered any difficulty in establishing Kid¡¦s Troupe¡HIf
so, how did you overcome it¡H
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Master Huang Chun-Ming Answered¡G
The difficulties encountered are mostly money problem. It is
not only I like kid¡¦s drama, many of us like it. To perform
a play, it takes actors, stage properties¡K, and there are many
people come over. In early days, there is a Cheng Jang Kindergarten.
It was established by several celebrities. It was then with
a history of more than a decade, they were gradually unable
to maintain, while we had many actor came from that kindergarten.
In funding, we have support of a foundation, we therefore made
our fame. Later, I returned to Yilan. Later, I traveled between
Taipei and Yilan. At that time Shoe Troupe was still active.
I thought why not moving Shoe Kid¡¦s Troupe to Yilan. Later,
I was hired as assistant general manager of a shoe manufacturer
in Douliao, who was making NIKE shoes.
The reason I was hired was because I helped Adidas in making
advertisement material, which was very successful. This led
NIKE to hire me. The factory has about 600 employees, most of
them are female. NIKE shoe is very expensive, when other shoes
were selling at US$5.00 per pair, NIKE¡¦s price tag was US$30.
High price makes high profit and when it is not profitable,
the capitalists would run away to look for lower cost production
in other places. So, the employees needed to produce expensive
shoes. As they are highly skilled, other factory would true
to solicit them. It takes time and cost to train employees to
produce high price shoes.
When I was there, I told them that most of the employees are
with children and the factory has wide space, I told them to
build a kid care or kindergarten, then the employees would stay,
even attract other employees to join. Then we have a foundation
to support. Later, when the Cheng Jang Kindergarten is closed,
so I used the fund of the foundation to buy it and we established
the Shoe Kid¡¦s Troupe. From there, the Troupe was turned to
real. In the beginning, Shoe Kid Troupe was in Taipei, we had
ample supply of actors. We want to perform kid¡¦s drama and we
want to selected talented actor, so we move Shoe Kid Troupe
to Yilan. Then, we renamed this troupe as Huang Ta Yu Kid¡¦s
Troupe.
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3.Why the troupe is names as
Huang Ta Yu Kid¡¦s Troupe? What does it mean by Huang Ta Yu (Yellow
Big Fish)¡H
Master Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Comparing with other names, I felt that an animal is better
for children to accept. Then, why fish? We know there is old
tiger, old dog, but I have never heard anything like old fish.
There is big fish and there is small fish, but not old fish.
So fish is not turning old.
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4.Why most of the members are local Yilan people¡HWhat is the
reason¡H
Master Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Master Huang Chun-Ming answered: It is only because the
troupe is located in Yilan. We can not expect member shuttling
between Taipei and Yilan. It is simply that we pick up gifted
and interested from local.
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5.Why do you want to promote
kid drama in schools? Any obstacles and how do you deal with
it¡H
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Master
Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Why in the school? It is not necessary in school. I promote
it in school, also in other place, as I believe education provided
to children must be of multiple aspects. Do you know what elements
required in a dram play? Element is rather abstract, what things
are needed in a drama play? There are people, music, dancing,
dialogues, stories, and there are contents in stories. In a
historical drama, for instance, an emperor likes to eat sugar,
we may think about a situation in Warring State era and a person
in the name of Chu Yuan. When talking about scarecrow and sparrow,
we would talk about mother-nature and ecological issues, such
as why sparrow eats rice and should it eat rice. They are of
multiple dimensions, such as music, dancing, drama, literature
and stories, ecology and many other things, but they form integral
body, just like my heart, liver, intestine, kidney.. .
Each of them is integral part of the body and none of them is
independent and nothing of them is dispensable, and missing
any of them the whole body is non-existed. This is an organism.
If your teacher tells you a tale, a funny tale, just once, and
you remember it. Do you have the experience? Have your teachers
told such kind of tale? When your teacher tells you a good story,
you would tell your mother when you got home, that your teacher
told you a good story and replay for your mother, and you would
not miss anything. Yet, when the teacher teaches you a lesson
and wants you to memorize it. IN most of the cases you are either
unable to memorize it, or it takes a lot of effort. Some of
knowledge teaching in the class, you have to spend long hours
to memorize it and the next day you are barely passed the examination.
Why is it so?
A good story can be replay by same one without difficulty, but
knowledge needs to work very hard. As I said, the story has
an organic connection. For example, if I link the chains together,
it may become an organic connection. If I forgot the first one,
I may not go to the second. If I memorize the second, I may
not memorize the third. In a story, as long as the first one
is initiated, they all activated. They are in organic connection.
Do you know what is organism? Story is an education for children.
If I am not well educated, not with theater education, but in
drama, it gives you wide field of life. If you are interested
in literature, in drama, which are not taught in class, you
will find experiences, sentiment and society of people from
extra curriculum readings, from drama. They are rich in every
aspect and you will have a foundation to realize things more
solid than before. Last time whey you watch the play of ¡§ Li
Junior is not a Liar¡¨, you may not understand what it was all
about, but as long as you have feeling and watched it from beginning
to the end, you will find it very interesting, then you will
watch it until it is ended. After the end, what? You find the
peach pedals falling down, he pedals of paper and the choir.
¡§ Look! Let me tell you the beautiful arcadia¡¨(Master Huang
started to sing the song of the theater) you must have heard
of this song. The resonance and transmission of it makes the
atmosphere exception ally good. After learning something, check
your brain what was left ¡K but other things are different ¡Kin
our kid¡¦s drama, grownups were forced to watch the play reluctantly
as their kids wanted to, but when they sit down and watch, the
grownups are so attracted that they stay to the end. ¡§How could
the children performed so well?¡¨
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6.Other than the troupe and
circuit performance, what will you do in promoting kid¡¦s drama?
Have you hade a practical idea¡H
Master Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Master Huang Chun-Ming answered: In the circuit performance,
as we have funds here and there are students who hardly have
any chance to watch the play, we make it possible for them.
For instance, ¡§Little Humpback¡¨ we played in Tatung Township
in a school of total 27 students. It was Nov. 17, 2005 and a
cold front was staying in Taiwan, up in the mountain, colder
than here. In the porch, without stage, property nor lighting,
we hung up a black fabric and I walked up to the stage and announced
that we were going to play ¡§Little Humpback¡¨.
In front of the stage, there was an open field and many trees
at the back. We heard the school bell ringing. We expected that
many students would pass through. We began our play ¡V a troupe
of more than 30 played for audience of less than 30. The aboriginal
students were much touched. I don¡¦t know what is promotion,
and I don¡¦t know such act is kind of promotion or not. We are
now playing to be watched wherever needs us and we want to move
fast to gain the time. They may not have another chance of watching
stage play, if they missed this one. This is not necessary promotion
of kid¡¦s drama.
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7.When you are writing kid¡¦s
book, what idea / concept you are trying to transmit to children¡H
I write when I have something to transmit to children. When
I find a story interesting and touching, I write it down and
offer for reading of children. When I feel a story is good,
I write down and I was not intended to be a writer of kid¡¦s
book. It was not preplanned for each part of a book, for transmitting
idea or concept. It is not so rigid. If the world is rigid as
it is, the things produced will be deadly rigid. I think seriously
that your question is dumb and dull. It is not so. Even if I
tell you now, what can you do about it. Sorry, I am sorry, this
is exactly my nature.
Teacher Lu¡G
Sorry, our agenda in more in the direction of your troupe¡K we
may be a bit ¡K.
Master Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Well, it is not the question kids want to know. If we
ask a child to write an article, we will find it is full of
the knowledge learnt from school, like, if Yilan is an Arcadia,
then¡K¡K¡K. Where is the feeling of our children? What is thing
they want know. You can ask me about Huang Ta Yu Kid¡¦s Troupe
or else, its okay, but why don¡¦t we talk about the play¡K. In
your way, it would sound no difference¡K. From your question
1 till now, I am almost unable to answer. I am not blaming you,
but the whole Taiwan is becoming so. Many graduated students
came to me and were driven out by me. They wanted to write about
my novel and asked me that we heard that you have written a
novel in the title of ¡§A woman watching the sea.¡¨
I knew that they did not check met up before coming to see me,
so I impishly said ¡§It was [A man watching the sea.]¡¨ I did
not write anything in that title, what I have written is ¡§The
days we watched the sea¡¨. They have no idea at all but they
came to see me for interview. What the hell of ¡§A women watching
the sea¡¨- what an exaggeration! They were uttered surprisingly
¡§Really! Don¡¦s kid me! It was said by people visited you earlier.¡¨
They came for interview than acting like a kid. You students
should ask what you want to know as a child. Since you have
watched ¡§ Li Jr. is not a Liar¡¨ you could ask the question,
how old is the youngest actor, or the Li Jr. he is Grade 4.
How could he play so well? He was not that good from the beginning.
But I told him to take it easy, read the script and play gradually.
You are not so at all. Your questions are read like grownups.
This is not right. I answered and but what would these questions
and answers be good for? What are they good in learning. Sorry,
I feel like to be sincere and honest to children and I am not
good at pretending.
Teacher Lu¡G
Because I feel that this question is rather difficult
to ask.
Master Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Master Huang Chun-Ming: it is not of depth at all.
Teacher Lu¡G
You will have your show next week, right! We shall make
interview appointment with you when you are available after
the students watched your show.
Master Huang Chun Ming answered¡G
Master Huang Chun-Ming: Let them watch it and come to have a
talk if they feel it is good. It is no point to discuss it if
they don¡¦t feel good about it. There has been a case. A father
brought his son to enlist in our troupe. The son was accepted
and the father was accepted too. It gave a wonderful feeling.
We had no idea about them before they came to us and now we
are good friends and became an integral body. I will tell you
many stories, then if you still want to know how the troupe
was formed in the school, we can then talk about it. This question
should not have been asked by them.
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